Showing posts with label Westboro Baptist Church. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Westboro Baptist Church. Show all posts

Tuesday, January 11, 2011

Disgraceful Westboro Group to protest funeral of Christina Green and other victims

Maybe now there can be no doubt this group only wants the attention for causing a lot of heartache and this has nothing to do with what they claim to be about what the Bible says. These people were murdered but they want to protest anyway. A nine year old girl was shot down but they want to protest. They claim they are trying to stop the sin of gays as a reason to protest all military funerals. What's their excuse now?

"God hates Catholics!" the flier, posted on the church's "God Hates Fags" website, says. "God calls your religion 'vain,' as it's empty of His truth; you worship idols!"

Funeral pickets to be met by 'angels'
By the CNN Wire Staff
January 11, 2011 8:09 a.m. EST

STORY HIGHLIGHTS
Westboro Baptist Church plans to picket funerals of the Tucson shooting victims
Groups want to show support for the families of the victims
They will be silent and nonconfrontational, organizers say
The funeral of 9-year-old Christina Green set for Thursday
Tucson, Arizona (CNN) -- Tucson just isn't that kind of town, says Christin Gilmer.
Gilmer is referring to the actions of Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kansas, which has made its name protesting the funerals of people who died of AIDS, gay people, soldiers and even Coretta Scott King.
But when the church announced its intention to picket the funeral of a 9-year-old girl -- one of six people who died Saturday during the attempted assassination of U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords -- Gilmer and others put their feet down.
Tucson is a "caring, loving, peaceful community," according to Gilmer, who said two of the six people killed were friends.
"For something like this to happen in Tucson was a really big shock to us all," she said. "Our nightmare happened when we saw Westboro Baptist Church was going to picket the funerals."
They're planning an "angel action" -- with 8- by 10-foot "angel wings" worn by participants and used to shield mourners from pickets. The actions were created by Coloradan Romaine Patterson, who was shocked to find the Topeka church and its neon signs outside the 1999 funeral of Matthew Shepherd, a young gay man beaten and left on a fence to die in Laramie, Wyoming.
Funeral pickets to be met by 'angels'

This is from the Orlando Sentinel

DAY #2 OF “THANK GOD FOR THE SHOOTER” – 6 DEAD! WBC WILL PICKET THEIR FUNERALS.

The 9-year-old girl was born 9/11/01! “Hear ye the rod, and who hath appointed it,” Mic. 6:9. God mercifully gave this nation a fair warning on 9/11 – but you despise His mercies, so you get no more mercy – man, woman or child. That’s how God the Avenger rolls!

That child was not innocent. This is a nation of depraved perverts who pass their children through the fire of their rage against God & all-consuming lust. From the womb, she was taught to hate God & mock His servants. That child is better off dead, so the cup of her iniquity will not overflow! Rep. Giffords passed laws trying to keep WBC watchers off the street corners. In repayment, God sent the shooter when she took to a street corner! The blood of the 9-year-old is on Rep. Giffords’ hands! This nation rejoiced & your officials were ho-hum when a violent veteran stalked 5 WBC picketers with 90 rounds of ammunition. In repayment, God sent the shooter with 90 rounds of ammunition & killed your federal judge, your child, & others. Now let’s see if you’re so ho-hum in the face of God’s wrath! The blood of these six dead is on your hands rebellious doomed-america! God’s judgments are so righteous & marvelous in our sight!

THANK GOD FOR HIS RIGHTEOUS JUDGMENTS!
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/ktxl-westboro-baptist-church-using-01092011,0,1103853.story

Saturday, December 11, 2010

Westboro group is ready to stalk another family as they lay to rest a Marine

Westboro group is ready to stalk another family as they lay to rest a Marine killed in Afghanistan. They will show up at the church were prayers will be said and tears will be shed. They will then follow the family and friends to the grave where Sgt. Matthew Abbate's coffin will rest as they take off the American flag, fold it tenderly and hand it over to the family on behalf of a grateful nation. We can talk all we want about freedom in this country including the right to say what we want but unless we talk about the rights of families to not be forced to listen, this nation is far from free for all. Who protects the families right to grieve in peace? Who protects them from being stalked by a group dedicated to hatred hiding behind their claim to be serving God? Does the law no longer take an interest in protecting peaceful people as they attend a funeral?

Westboro church members plan to protest at Marine's funeral in Fresno

By MARC BENJAMIN
McClatchy Newspapers

Published: Saturday, Dec. 11, 2010 - 12:00 am
FRESNO, Calif -- FRESNO, Calif. - Members of a controversial Kansas church group who protest at funerals of America's war dead say they'll be in Fresno Saturday to picket the funeral of a Clovis Marine.

A group of "not more than six" members of Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kan., will be protesting outside Peoples Church in northeast Fresno - where funeral services are scheduled for Marine Sgt. Matthew Abbate - and then follow the procession to the burial in Merced County, church spokeswoman Shirley Phelps-Roper said Friday.

Abbate, 26, died Dec. 2 while conducting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan.



Read more:
Westboro church members plan to protest at Marine's funeral in Fresno

Monday, December 6, 2010

Community groups hope to shield soldier’s family from protest

Community groups hope to shield soldier’s family from protest

By Christopher Magan 
and Dave Larsen, Staff Writers
Updated 8:18 PM Sunday, November 28, 2010
FAIRBORN — Local gay rights advocates are planning to attend the funeral of Army Spc. Jesse Snow to support the family and counter a protest by members of a controversial Kansas church that opposes homosexuality.
“We are going to be out there to support the family, the military and Jesse as a hero,” said Christopher Perkins, president of the Brite Signal Alliance, a Sinclair Community College group that supports equality for gay and transgender students. “I live in Fairborn and for them to come to my community and disrespect (Snow) is uncalled for.”
Perkins created an online social networking group to counter the protest hours after it was reported that members of the Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kan., would be in the Miami Valley to picket Snow’s funeral. About 40 people had committed to attend by Sunday afternoon, and Perkins was awaiting the reply of a thousand others.
Snow’s father, John W. Snow Sr., said he appreciates what the gay rights group is doing.
read more here
Community groups hope to shield soldier’s family from protest

Wednesday, December 1, 2010

Wounded Afghanistan Veteran Arrested at Westboro Rally

Vet With Guns Arrested at Westboro Rally
December 01, 2010
Wichita Eagle, Kan.
Authorities arrested a wounded, decorated Army veteran after he followed members of a controversial Topeka church and he was found in a vehicle stocked with weapons outside Wichita City Hall on Tuesday, sources said.

In the man's vehicle, which was backed into a spot in the City Hall parking lot, investigators found items including a rifle, a handgun and more than 90 rounds of ammunition, said a source close to the investigation who asked not to be named.

By Tuesday evening, the man, in his 20s, was booked into the Sedgwick County, Kan., Jail on suspicion of stalking, false impersonation and driving with a revoked license, records showed.

Sheriff Bob Hinshaw declined to comment on any items in the man's vehicle but confirmed that sheriff's detectives arrested the man after a detective saw his vehicle following members of Westboro Baptist Church. The church protests at troops' funerals, claiming that war deaths are God's way of punishing the nation for immorality and for tolerance of abortion and homosexuality.

A church spokesman could not be reached Tuesday night.

Sources said the man arrested is a veteran who suffered severe wounds when an improvised bomb exploded in Afghanistan.
read more here
Vet With Guns Arrested at Westboro Rally

Monday, November 29, 2010

Patriot Guard Riders stand up to Westboro hate group

Counter-Protest Members Support Fallen Soldier, Stand Up To Controversial Group
By Valerie Caviglia

November 26, 2010
FORT WAYNE, Ind. (Indiana’s NewsCenter) – A handful of protestors from the Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kan. picketed at the funeral of Staff Sgt. Kevin Matthew Pape on Friday. But they were far outnumbered by the dozens of people who showed up to support Pape and speak out against the controversial group.
read more here
http://www.indianasnewscenter.com/news/local/Protestors-Face-Patriot-Guard-At-Fallen-Soldiers-Funeral-110867399.html

Wednesday, November 17, 2010

Police brace for protest at funeral for soldier

They say they believe they are serving God doing this. Some people must still believe in minor gods they have made up in their own minds because the God I know sent Christ and would not be happy about any of this.

Saul thought he was serving God too when he was hunting down Christians. Christ opened his eyes by making him blind and then he saw how wrong he was.  He became St. Paul living out his days serving Christ. Wonder what it would take to open their eyes and stop all this hatred?

Police brace for protest at funeral for soldier
Published: Tuesday, November 16, 2010

By Mitch Hotts
For The Oakland Press

St. Clair County law enforcers and military veterans groups are preparing for a potential protest by the Westboro Baptist Church at Wednesday's funeral service for a decorated soldier who died in action in Afghanistan.

The Westboro church, which is known for picketing at the funerals of American servicemen with anti-gay messages, has indicated in a news release on its website that members plan to preach their message "in respectful, lawful proximity" to the service for Pfc. Shane Reifert.

A number of local, county, and Michigan State Police officials met Monday to prepare a plan on how to handle the situation if the protesters show up.

"We have a strategic plan, but we're not releasing a lot of information at this point," said St. Clair County Sheriff Tim Donnellon. "The funeral is in Marine City and we're assisting their police department. We're hoping for the good of everyone that the protesters don't make it."

Shirley Phelps-Roper, daughter of church founder Fred Phelps, said late Monday that the group's busy schedule may prevent them from attending, although they do plan to picket an event Thursday at Wayne State University. Some members are already in Detroit.
read more here
Police brace for protest at funeral for soldier


The Beatitudes

He said:
3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4 Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
5 Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.
6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
7 Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
8 Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
9 Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called children of God.
10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

11 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 
12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
Sermon on the mount

The fallen soldiers are the ones blessed because they laid down their lives for the sake of their friends. Westboro group can't even lay down their posters. Hate like they have is not of Christ who also laid down His life for the sake of everyone!

pictures are from this article
http://militarytimes.com/blogs/battle-rattle/category/westboro-baptist-church-2/

Thursday, October 21, 2010

600 people met the eight Westboro pickets at Gonzaga University

October 21, 2010 in City
Ferris to release students early as protesters gather
The Spokesman-Review

Ferris High School officials have decided to release students at 1:45 today as hundreds of protestors gather nearby to demonstrate against a planned appearance by pickets from Westboro Baptist Church.

Hundreds of people have turned out at each of the stops scheduled by the radical group to counter its message of hate and intolerance.

An estimated 600 people met the eight Westboro pickets at Gonzaga University, with another 200 to 300 at both the Moody Bible Institute and Whitworth University. Currently, about 200 people are gathering near Ferris High School.

read more here
Ferris to release students early

Friday, October 15, 2010

Westboro group calls off one protest for airtime

Protest of Aiken soldier's funeral called off, still on in Lexington
By Logan Smith
AIKEN, SC (WIS) - A controversial church from Kansas has backed off its plans to protest during the funeral of a slain Aiken war veteran, accepting time on a local radio station as a tradeoff. However, the group still plans to picket the funeral of a Lexington soldier killed in the same attack.

Westboro Baptist Church member Shirley Phelps-Roper told the Augusta Chronicle they were offered an hour of unedited airtime on radio station WGAC-AM in exchange for staying away from Thursday's funeral for Staff Sgt. Willie J. Harley Jr. of Aiken.

But the anti-Semitic and anti-gay group still plans to picket outside the funeral of Specialist Luther Rabon of Lexington. Rabon and Harley of Aiken were killed in Afghanistan earlier this month when their vehicle was attacked by insurgents with an Improvised Explosive Device.
read more here
http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=13318496

Tuesday, October 5, 2010

Westboro Baptist Church video you have to see

What part of what Christ taught do these people follow? Free speech does not demand that ears are forced to hear or eyes forced to see. The families have to be there to bury their family member, the Phelps do not have to be there to use their free speech rights. What about protecting the free expression of religious practices the families are supposed to be able to do that the Phelps are trying to stop? It is bad enough they are attacking the unselfish men and women who gave up their lives serving this country and the families right along with them but enough is enough. This video shows what they really are or are play acting for the publicity.
Westboro Baptist Church video you have to see

10/5/10: Pastor Fred Phelps and several members of the Westboro Baptist Church discuss their upcoming case before the Supreme Court, in which they'll be arguing for their right to picket at military funerals with the message that soldier deaths are divine punishment for America's tolerance of homosexuality.
Read a Q&A about the case with First Amendment expert Floyd Abrams.
K. Ryan Jones is the director of 'Fall From Grace,' the only feature-length documentary about the Westboro Baptist Church, which is available on DVD.

http://www.newsweek.com/video/2010/10/05/free-speech-fight.html

Friday, October 1, 2010

Funeral Protest Case Reaches High Court

Funeral Protest Case Reaches High Court


September 30, 2010
Associated Press


YORK, Pa. -- One thing Al Snyder wants to make clear: His boy fought and died for freedom in Iraq, but not for the right of some "wackos" to spew hate at troops' funerals under the protection of the Constitution.

"It's an insult to myself, my family and the veterans to say this is what our military men and women died for," Snyder says, barely concealing his anger.

Yet more than four years after the death of his only son, Matthew, Snyder is in the middle of a Supreme Court case that raises almost precisely that issue.

The court is set to decide whether members of a fundamentalist church in Kansas who picketed Matthew's funeral with signs bearing anti-gay and anti-Catholic invective have a constitutional right to say what they want.


Or, in intruding on a private citizen's funeral in a hurtful way, have the protesters crossed a line and given Snyder the right to collect millions of dollars for the emotional pain they caused?
The justices will hear arguments in the case next Wednesday.
read more here
Funeral Protest Case Reaches High Court

Tuesday, August 31, 2010

Vietnam Vet with PTSD aimed at Westboro group

Marine veteran haunted by memories
By Matthew Hansen
WORLD-HERALD STAFF WRITER


George Vogel drove his Ford pickup truck toward a group of people he thought were the infamous Westboro Baptist protesters.

The 62-year-old Omahan’s trigger finger rested on a can of potent pepper spray that can cause temporary blindness and vomiting. His grandson rode in the passenger seat.

But what Vogel saw as he leaned out the driver’s side window and twice sprayed the crowd outside the Saturday funeral of Marine Staff Sgt. Michael Bock is a 40-year-old memory he can’t shake, his wife says.

In the memory, Vogel is himself a young Marine. He has just climbed off the ship that has brought him back to the United States from a brutal tour of duty in Vietnam. And he encounters a group of anti-war protesters, young adults his own age, waving signs and screaming at him.

“He kept saying, ‘All I could think of was when I got off the boat,’” Marlene Vogel said Monday of the lone phone conversation she has had with her husband since he was jailed Saturday on suspicion of 16 counts of misdemeanor assault.

The charges stem from the 16 people — none of whom are believed to be Westboro Baptist members — who were allegedly harmed by Vogel’s bear repellent, a Mace-like chemical that burned their eyes, turned their stomachs and sent several to the hospital.

“In no way did he want to take away from the honor of Sgt. Bock, the solemn occasion for his family,” Marlene Vogel says. “But he was not thinking clearly. All he saw in his mind were those protesters when he got off the ship.”

Vogel is a Creighton graduate, a father of four, a retired vice president of a telemarketing firm and a longtime member of a veterans group that aids families of Marines killed or wounded in combat.

He is also a longtime victim of post-traumatic stress disorder, his wife and his attorney said Monday. He is spooked by loud noises. He has long suffered nightmares — his children, when young, grew used to hearing him call in artillery and scream for help while asleep.
read more here

http://www.omaha.com/article/20100831/NEWS97/708319913/0


Sunday, August 29, 2010

600 Patriot Guard Riders stood vigil for Staff Sgt. Michael Bock
Staff Sgt. Michael Bock, 26, who died August 13 in Afghanistan's Helmand province

Sunday, August 29, 2010

600 Patriot Guard Riders stood vigil for Staff Sgt. Michael Bock

Staff Sgt. Michael Bock, 26, who died August 13 in Afghanistan's Helmand province


He should be the focus of this story. He was killed serving this country. He didn't serve Afghanistan. He died there. He served the United States of America. He served with his brothers and sisters, his military family just as much as he served for his family and friends back home. The nation borrowed him for a time but he was their's first and they will remember him, mourn the loss of him, visit his grave and grieve for him as Michael Bock.


The incident occurred during the funeral and while nearly 600 members of the Patriot Guard Riders ringed the church and stood vigil, the group's state leader said.

Scott Knudsen, Patriot Guard Riders captain for Nebraska, said no members of the Patriot Guard had any interaction with the church members or counter-protesters, which he numbered Saturday at about 12.

"We don't get close to them," Knudsen said of the Westboro members. "We have our backs to them."

Patriot Guard members, who come when they are invited by families, shield families from distraction, Knudsen said.

"We don't condone counter-protesters," said Knudsen, adding he was troubled by Saturday's incident.

"It's inappropriate," he said. "It's a funeral service."


The 600 riders of the Patriot Guard came to honor his life as well as stand as a barrier between the protestors of the Westboro group. (Sorry but I have a hard time calling them a church with the way they act.) On short notice, they plan to give up plans they had ahead of time, make the ride or the drive to these funerals and face whatever the weather brings. In the freezing cold, rain, snow or sweltering heat, they stand guard to protect the family and friends as much as possible. Imagine how heartbreaking it is to have to bury a young member of your family and then be greeted by signs saying someone is thanking God for IED and praising Him for blowing up the troops. That's no god I know. It can't be the same God who sent Christ to tell us how much He loved us or the same one telling us that we needed to love each other. The Patriot Guard Riders formed for this mission as soon as the Westboro group decided to invade and attack mourners at a funeral.

Protestors and counter protestors will keep going on as long as the Supreme Court refuses to stop this. Free speech does need to be protected but since when does someone's free speech rights demand anyone has to listen to them, see them or be attacked by them?

If people want to protest no one is stopping them but the point here is that the family has no choice. They get to decide what color the casket should be. They get to decide what funeral home will conduct it, what church to hold the service in or to have no religious service at all, when to have it and what flowers to order. They get to decide what cemetery they visit. They have to be there with the other family members and friends to comfort each other but the Westboro group does not have to be there. They can go some place else but they want the publicity. Why the hell should the Supreme Court defend their right to publicize hatred to a captive audience?

Should someone in the Westboro group pass away, would it be ok with them if family members of the fallen showed up to protest at the funeral for one of their own? Can they hold up signs saying "Thank God for sending this one back to hell?" Would it be ok with them for someone to shout out about God's judgement and vengeance? How would they feel if someone shouted out that the person they loved deserved to die?

Man fires pepper spray on protesters outside Marine's funeral
By the CNN Wire Staff
August 28, 2010 11:28 p.m. EDT
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
NEW: Church member says police didn't control counter-protesters
A motorist fires pepper spray on a crowd outside a funeral for a Marine
Protesters from Westboro Baptist Church were in Omaha, Nebraska
An Omaha resident faces felony and misdemeanor assault charges

(CNN) -- A motorist fired pepper spray Saturday at a group of demonstrators and counter-protesters outside a funeral for a U.S. Marine in Omaha, Nebraska, police said.

The incident occurred shortly before 10 a.m. (11 a.m. ET) as members of a small Kansas church that protests at military funerals and counter-protesters stood nearly a block away from First United Methodist Church during services for Staff Sgt. Michael Bock, 26, who died August 13 in Afghanistan's Helmand province.

A man in a Ford-150 pickup truck drove by, extended his arm and sprayed with a large can, police said. His vehicle was stopped a few minutes later.

"Initial indications are he was probably targeting the Westboro Baptist Church" protesters, said officer Michael Pecha, a spokesman for Omaha police.
read more here
Man fires pepper spray on protesters


Westboro group should not be the focus but had it not been for them CNN wouldn't be covering the story of Staff. Sgt. Bock's funeral. The 600 members of the Patriot Guard Riders wouldn't be covered by CNN had it not been for the man who decided to add to the emotional damage being done by attacking the people adding to the trauma.


Fred Phelps
Fred Waldron Phelps, Sr. (born November 13, 1929) is an American pastor who is the founder of the Westboro Baptist Church (WBC), an Independent Baptist church based in Topeka, Kansas. WBC that is notorious for its anti-gay protests, claiming that most natural disasters and terrorist attacks are God's punishment for a society that tolerates homosexuality.[1][2] The church is monitored as a hate group by the Anti-Defamation League and Southern Poverty Law Center.[3][4][5] Phelps was a disbarred lawyer, founder of the Phelps Chartered law firm, a past civil rights activist in Kansas, and a Democrat who has five times been a candidate for political office in Kansas Democratic Party primaries. He and his daughter, Shirley Phelps-Roper, are banned from entering the United Kingdom.[6]

Phelps's followers frequently picket various events, especially military funerals, gay pride gatherings, high-profile political gatherings, performances of The Laramie Project, and even Christian gatherings and concerts with which he had no affiliation, arguing it is their sacred duty to warn others of God's anger. When criticized, Phelps' followers say they are protected in doing so by the First Amendment.[7][8] In response to Phelps' protests at military funerals, President George W. Bush signed the Respect for America's Fallen Heroes Act into law in May 2006,[9] and, in April 2007, Kansas governor Kathleen Sebelius signed into law a bill establishing a 150-foot no-picketing buffer zone around funerals.


Phelps describes himself as an Old School Baptist, and states that he holds to all five points of Calvinism.[23] Phelps particularly highlights John Calvin's doctrine of unconditional election, the belief that God has elected certain people for salvation before birth, and limited atonement, the belief that Christ only died for the elect, and condemns those who believe otherwise


He has the right to believe what he wants but so does everyone else. He has the right to preach his message of hatred but no one should be forced to listen to him or any member of his group. This not only crosses the line of freedom of religion, it corrupts the right to free speech. "Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" should protect the family members from having to listen to him and his group thank God for the death of a fallen son or daughter, protect them from having their liberty to attend a funeral without being harassed but it seems the only ones to deserve any happiness are those rejoicing with Phelps over the loss of life.

How someone goes from being a civil rights lawyer to attacking the civil rights of others is something we may never know.


But here is a story that CNN didn't cover. Lance Cpl. Nathaniel Schultz died in Afghanistan and his funeral was at a Baptist Church. Why did he want to serve? This is what he said,,,,
"To fight for righteous, individual freedom for myself and all children of God no matter where they were raised."


Yet while most people were thanking God for his life being sent here, people like the Westboro group were thanking God another Marine died. Which group do you think follows what Christ preached?

Fallen Marine was defender of 'righteous freedom'
By Bill Varian, Times Staff Writer
In Print: Sunday, August 29, 2010
Some time after he joined the Marine Corps, Nathaniel Schultz filled out a questionnaire asking him why he had signed up.

"Self reliance and ability to protect my family," Schultz wrote. "Decided if I go to war I might as well be the best, most well-trained. To fight for righteous, individual freedom for myself and all children of God no matter where they were raised."

Family and friends gathered under mostly cloudy skies Saturday morning at Bell Shoals Baptist Church in Brandon to honor a righteous fight cut short and the young man who waged it. There they were comforted by Pastor George Thomasson, who held up Schultz's goals as evidence of his focus, dedication and deep convictions.

"Nate's life was cut so short," Thomasson said. "We so appreciate deeply in our hearts the sacrifice he made."

Lance Cpl. Schultz was killed Aug. 21 during combat operations in Afghanistan's war-ravaged Helmand province. He was deployed to that country in June after training at Camp Lejeune in North Carolina and was promoted to lance corporal three weeks before his death.
read more here
Fallen Marine was defender of righteous freedom

Tuesday, August 24, 2010

Nebraska Drops Case Against Westboro Member

Nebraska Drops Case Against Westboro Member

August 24, 2010
Associated Press

PAPILLION, Neb. -- Family members of a fallen U.S. servicemember expressed disappointment Monday after prosecutors and protesters from Kansas-based Westboro Baptist Church reached a deal that will keep both sides out of court over actions stemming from a church member's 2007 protest of the serviceman's funeral.

The 11th-hour deal was signed Monday, the same day Shirley Phelps-Roper's trial was to begin on charges of disturbing the peace and negligent child abuse. Those charges will be dismissed in exchange for Phelps-Roper, 52, dropping a federal lawsuit against Nebraska authorities accusing them of malicious prosecution.


As part of the deal pending a judge's expected Aug. 31 approval, Phelps-Roper also agreed to remove Sarpy County Attorney Lee Polikov from a separate lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of the state's funeral protest law. Defendants in that ongoing federal suit include Republican Gov. Dave Heineman and state Attorney General Jon Bruning.

But family members and friends of the fallen Bellevue servicemember say the deal leaves them out in the cold.

"I came here today to see some justice done. This isn't right," said Randy Chaney, 44, the brother of Petty Officer 1st Class Jeffrey Chaney, who was 35 when he was killed in 2007 by a roadside bomb in Iraq.
go here for more
Nebraska Drops Case Against Westboro Member

Tuesday, August 17, 2010

State ban on protests at military funerals unconstitutional

I wonder how the judge would feel about free speech rights if he ended up forced to listen? Forced to see the signs? It is great to protect everyone's right to speak freely in this country, even people like Phelps because if someone tries to silence his voice, then we need to ask who would be next. What this does not mean is that someone else should be forced to hear any of it.

We can turn off a radio station we don't want to listen to, change the TV channel, not buy a newspaper or when we see protests, we have a choice to go another way to where we want to go. The families of fallen troops don't have the luxury. They can't just decide to not bury their family member or go someplace else. They should have the right to have their own constitutional rights protected as well. Forcing them to be victims of attack from someone else defends no ones rights.

Judge: State ban on protests at military funerals unconstitutional
By Bill Mears, CNN
August 17, 2010 7:22 a.m. EDT

STORY HIGHLIGHTS
Federal judge tosses out Missouri ban on protests and picketing at military funerals
The law was passed in response to a protest by Westboro Baptist Church
The church members say they believe U.S. troop deaths are God's punishment
Washington (CNN) -- Missouri's tight restrictions on protests and picketing outside military funerals were tossed out by a federal judge Monday, over free speech concerns.

A small Kansas church had brought suit over its claimed right to loudly march outside the burials and memorial services of those killed in overseas conflicts. The state legislature had passed a law to keep members of the Topeka-based Westboro Baptist Church from demonstrating within 300 feet of such private services.

Church members, led by pastor Fred Phelps, believe God is punishing the United States for "the sin of homosexuality" through events including soldiers' deaths. Members have traveled the country, shouting at grieving family members at funerals and displaying such signs as "Thank God for Dead Soldiers," "God Blew Up the Troops" and "AIDS Cures Fags."
read more here
State ban on protests at military funerals

Thursday, July 29, 2010

Westboro Baptist set to protest another soldier's funeral

UPDATE
They didn't show up




Protests planned at Spring Hill soldier's funeral
By Laura J. Nelson, Times Staff Writer
In Print: Wednesday, July 28, 2010


SPRING HILL — First came the flier: "God hates America & is killing our troops in his wrath."

And now, its makers want to deliver their message in person Wednesday on Mariner Boulevard.

Members of the Westboro Baptist Church, a Kansas-based religious organization that has gained notoriety by picketing military funerals across the country, plan a protest outside a local soldier's funeral.

Two local groups hope to shield that soldier's family from the WBC's picket signs.

"We will be there to protect the family from this indignity," said Kathy Kentta, a local organizer for United Protectors of Fallen Soldiers. "No grieving family deserves this treatment."

Spring Hill soldier Sgt. Derek Schicchi, 27, died July 19 of an apparent gunshot wound while serving at Fort Hood. He was found behind a store in Killeen, Texas, and local police said there was no evidence of foul play.
read more here
Protests planned at Spring Hill soldier funeral

Monday, July 12, 2010

Twilight series, Harry Potter and Monty Python defeat Westboro Baptist protests against heroes

Counterprotests Drown Out Westboro
July 12, 2010
Fort Worth Star-Telegram

ARLINGTON, Texas -- Protests at two Arlington churches organized by Westboro Baptist Church on Sunday morning were drowned out by more than 100 counterprotesters who rebuked the controversial group.

About a dozen members of Westboro Baptist Church picketed at Fielder Road Baptist Church and later at Most Blessed Sacrament Catholic Church, two of four North Texas religious institutions they planned to visit Sunday. Most of the group's members were children related to Fred Phelps, the church leader, who was not there. The group has gained notoriety for protesting at military funerals and alleging that U.S. Soldiers' deaths are God's punishment for America's acceptance of homosexuality.

At both Arlington events, Westboro members were outmatched more than 10-to-1 by counterprotesters, many of whom opted for irreverence over anger as their weapon against the Topeka, Kan., group's message.

Westboro members' signs included: "Your Pastor is a Liar," "You Hate God," "God Hates Israel" and "Pray For More Dead Soldiers."

Some of the signs from counterprotesters were: "God Hates Signs," "I Love Pie" and "Cheerios Lowers Your Cholesterol." Counterprotesters also held signs featuring pop culture references including the Twilight series, Harry Potter and Monty Python.
read more here
Counterprotests Drown Out Westboro

Tuesday, June 22, 2010

Westboro Baptist protestors want protection to protest at military funeral?

They hold up signs saying God hates the troops as they show up while a line of cars escorts the families of the fallen while they bury their son, daughter, husband, wife or child. While Westboro can in fact use their free speech rights to do this, the family does not have the right to not listen to them. The families have to be there, but Westboro Baptist protestors do not have to be there. It is one thing to hate this much, to be filled with so much anger they feel the need to travel around the country holding signs and spouting their message of hate, but yet another to expect the police departments to protect them instead of protecting the families they came to emotionally assault.

Patriot Guard Riders formed just because of these people showing up to attack the fallen and their families. Imagine having to do something like that because these people want to be able to say whatever they want, wherever they want with a captive audience. Think of going to a funeral for your own family member and then being forced to see these signs. How would that make you feel? If they are allowed to do this whenever and wherever they want, then what's to stop someone else from doing it to another group of people? They hold up signs saying God hates gay people, so what is to stop them from showing up at funerals for civilians they believe are gay? This isn't about being gay or not. They show up for military funerals and that is because they know they will get attention for it. The families should not have to pay the price for their lusting after attention.


Westboro Baptists announce plan to protest soldier's funeral
Friday, Jun 18, 2010 - 05:28:19 pm CDT
Westboro Baptist Church members have notified Plattsmouth Police Department they will be protesting at the funeral of Sgt. Blaine Edward Redding Tuesday, June 22.

Redding was killed June 7 while serving in the United States Army in Afghanistan.

Formerly from Plattsmouth and Elmwood, Sgt. Redding will be placed to rest in Oak Hill Cemetery in Plattsmouth.

Funeral services are planned at 10:30 a.m. Tuesday, at Church of the Holy Spirit.

Plattsmouth Police Chief Dave Murdoch said he received a letter from Westboro legal counsel asking for protection while members protest from 9:45 to 10:30 a.m. Tuesday.

“They know that their group is not looked upon favorably,” Murdoch said. “They are concerned for their safety.”
read more here
Westboro Baptists announce plan to protest

Friday, May 7, 2010

Westboro hate church plans protest of U. S. Marine funeral

It doesn't seem to matter to Westboro if a serviceman or woman was gay or not. It doesn't seem to matter if they were married or not, had children or not, had people grieving for them or anything else other than proving they enjoy the ability to publicly hate the troops. A right they would not have had it not been for generations of other Americans paying the price for that right.

While it is true there is free speech in this country and even this kind of hate speech is protected, it is also coming with forcing the families to listen to them. When someone prints something hateful, we do not have to read it. When someone stands in the middle of the street screaming how much they hate someone, no one is forced to be there and can walk away. Yet when a family is in the process of burying a family member, especially in a publicized military funeral, they are forced to have to hear this hatred. They cannot decide to go some place else. They cannot decide it isn't worth burying their family member if they have to hear or read signs of hatred. They have to be there. Westboro people do not have to be there at all. They can thank God all they want for IED's and for the troops being killed but the rest of us wonder which God they are thanking.

There is a lot of talk about the free speech rights of this group but there is too little talk about what the rights of the families of the fallen are. What about their right to grieve without being attacked by a group trespassing on their own rights?

Hate church plans protest of U. S. Marine funeral
May 6, 2:49 PM
Birmingham Gay Community Examiner
Joe Openshaw
Lance Corporal Thomas E. Rivers, Jr., was killed due to enemy action while serving as a U. S. Marine in Afghanistan on April 28, 2010. His funeral is planned for Friday, May 7, 2010 near Birmingham, AL.

Westboro Baptist Church has announced a protest at the funeral of Lance Corporal Thomas E. Rivers.

Westboro Baptist Church, led by Fred Phelps, is best known as a hate group and uses anti-gay rhetoric in an attempt to gain publicity for themselves.

Equality Alabama has issued a statement in response to Westboro Baptist's planned protest.
go here for more
Hate church plans protest of U. S. Marine funeral

Tuesday, April 13, 2010

Bubba the "love sponge" takes on Westboro Baptist Church

Today driving to work I heard "Bubba the Love Sponge" talking about Westboro Baptist Church and how he is planning on having on Shirley Phelps. My husband had the station on from last night and I couldn't change the station because I hung onto every word. Bubba said that since she knows the Bible inside and out, he wanted a pastor or minister to go on the show to counter what she claims is "gospel" since she can quote chapter and verse.

Considering that she may very well be able to do that, it does not mean she understands what she has read. Bubba mentioned she likes to quote Romans.

I do not suggest you look up the site because I tried a couple of times and ended up with a frozen screen.

http://www.godhatesfags.com/








Tuesday, April 13, 2010
Yesterday on the show… Editor-in-chief of DailyCaller.com, Tucker Carlson, called in to thank Bubba for giving him a Special Forces dickie; We are looking for a minister, priest, or pastor of a legitmate Christian organization to debate, Shirley Phelps of the Westboro Baptist Church also known as the “God Hates Fags” people! Don’t forget to tune into today’s Show!!!


Orlando 96.5





If she is quoting anything that Christ didn't say, then she needs to consider the source of who said it. In this case, it's St. Paul.

This is part of what he said:

24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

28Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+1&version=NIV

Seems to me that the folks at the "church" have a lot in common with this part but I bet they don't see it.


When you consider that Paul was equally sure of what he believed that he lived his life after the crucifixion hunting down Christians so they could be killed, he had a habit of getting things messed up. He lived as Saul of Trasus until Christ spoke to him and "helped him see the light" by showing him how wrong he was. Anyone using what another human said to support a twisted vision of what Christianity is supposed to be is missing the point of Christ Himself.

Christ did say a lot about divorce and getting remarried but you'll hardly ever hear anyone saying much about this since so many have been divorced and remarried. Christ talked about sex without being married too. What all of this boiled down to is that it hurt other people and you shouldn't do it. This fits perfectly with what he said the greatest commandment was too.



The Greatest Commandment
28One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, "Of all the commandments, which is the most important?"
29"The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.[e] 30Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.'[f] 31The second is this: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'[g]There is no commandment greater than these."



This shows that you cannot love your neighbor, which Christ pointed out was anyone, at the same time you hate them. This group hates soldiers, the very people deciding to lay down their lives for the sake of this country. This is another thing this group of people forget.

John 15:13
(New International Version)
13Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends.




The part that gets me on all of this is that while we need to defend even the rights of people to say what they want when they are terrible, there is also a need for the families of the fallen to have some allowance to mourn the loss without being attacked. They should be able to go to the cemetery and bury their family member without having to hear these hateful words and see the horrible signs by people claiming to be Christian or from anyone else. They are a tiny group and have a right to believe whatever they want, but they do not have the right to subject everyone else to their twisted views of it. Just because someone has the right to say something no one should be forced to hear it. In the case of a military funeral, these families have no choice but to hear them and see their signs and this is wrong.

So please out there in blog world. If there is a pastor or a minister or someone with a lot more biblical knowledge than I have, please contact Bubba's show and take on this woman with a very twisted view of love.

Sunday, April 4, 2010

A Marine's father fights on for his son

A Marine's father fights on for his son
He took case to highest court after Kan. church protested at funeral

By Tricia Bishop tricia.bishop@baltsun.com

April 4, 2010


YORK, Pa. — - Albert Snyder is a soft, bear of a man - more teddy than grizzly - with thinning hair, a trim goatee and tired eyes. He has a folksy, polite manner and speaks with the gentle tone and tempo of a storyteller.

But if you mess with his family, he turns fierce. You can see the change whenever the Westboro Baptists of Topeka, Kan., are mentioned. They messed with his son in what he considers an unimaginable way.

"You don't go after one of my kids," Snyder said from his lawyer's office in York, Pa.

Marine Lance Cpl. Matthew A. Snyder, 20, was killed in a Humvee accident in Iraq on March 3, 2006. A week later, church members stood outside his funeral at St. John's Roman Catholic Church in Westminster waving signs that said "Thank God for dead soldiers" and "God hates fags" while mourners grieved inside. Later, they posted a diatribe on their Web site claiming that Matthew's divorced parents raised him "to commit adultery" and to support "satanic Catholicism."

The Westboro church members had never met Matthew, who wasn't gay, nor his family. Yet seven of them - adults and children - traveled 1,100 miles across a half-dozen states to celebrate the young Marine's death as part of their anti-gay gospel aimed at the military. They contended that the protest was directed not at Snyder but at the U.S. government and its tolerance of homosexuality and gays in the military.

Snyder sued Westboro Baptist Church and its leaders in Baltimore federal court a few months after Matthew died, contending that they invaded his privacy and intentionally inflicted emotional distress. He testified that the defendants placed a "bug" in his head so that he could no longer think of his son without thinking of them and their signs.

The trial, too, took its toll, wearing on him physically and emotionally as he relived his son's death each day.

Snyder won a multimillion-dollar jury verdict, with the judge calling Westboro's actions "outrageous" and "highly offensive," but an appeals court reversed it. The Supreme Court has agreed to hear the case during its fall term, vaulting Snyder's personal fight onto a national stage.

He appeared on ABC's "Good Morning America" last week, and taped an episode with MSNBC's Chris Matthews the week before. On Tuesday, shortly after the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit ruled that Snyder would have to pay some costs of Westboro's appeals, Bill O'Reilly of Fox News pledged to pay the $16,000 bill.

Snyder's lawyers have become part-time publicity agents and celebrities. And military families across the country consider Snyder - a man who never wanted his son to be a soldier - a champion for basic human decency.

read more here
A Marine's father fights on for his son
A Marine father fights on for his son