Obama declares Military Family Month
By Karen Jowers - Staff writer
Posted : Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 14:09:03 EST
For 14 years, the Armed Forces YMCA and others have celebrated November as Military Family Month. Now, President Barack Obama has made it official throughout the country — at least for this November.
“I call on all Americans to honor military families through private actions and public service for the tremendous contributions they make in the support of our service members and our nation,” Obama stated in his proclamation, signed Oct. 30, designating November 2009 as Military Family Month.
Obama included the parents of service members in his message, as well as spouses and children.
“As sons and daughters, husbands and wives, and mothers and fathers are deployed, military families endure with exceptional resilience and courage,” he wrote. “They provide our troops with invaluable encouragement and love, and serve our nation in their own right.”
read more here
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/11/military_familymonth_110309w/
Wednesday, November 4, 2009
Afghan policeman kills 5 British soldiers
Afghan policeman kills 5 British soldiers
By Elena Becatoros - The Associated Press
Posted : Wednesday Nov 4, 2009 10:25:53 EST
KABUL — An Afghan policeman opened fire on British soldiers in the volatile southern province of Helmand, killing five before fleeing, British and Afghan authorities said Wednesday, raising concerns about discipline within the Afghan forces and possible infiltration by insurgents.
The attack Tuesday afternoon came a month after an Afghan policeman on patrol with U.S. soldiers fired on the Americans, killing two. Training and operating jointly with Afghan police and soldiers is key to NATO's strategy of dealing with the spreading Taliban-led insurgency and, ultimately, allowing international forces to leave Afghanistan.
Attacks such as these will heighten concern about the effectiveness of the Afghan forces.
Lt. Col. David Wakefield, spokesman for the British forces, told Sky News that the soldiers had been mentoring Afghan national police and had been working and living in the police checkpoint in Helmand's Nad-e-Ali district.
read more here
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/11/ap_british_soldiers_killed_110409/
By Elena Becatoros - The Associated Press
Posted : Wednesday Nov 4, 2009 10:25:53 EST
KABUL — An Afghan policeman opened fire on British soldiers in the volatile southern province of Helmand, killing five before fleeing, British and Afghan authorities said Wednesday, raising concerns about discipline within the Afghan forces and possible infiltration by insurgents.
The attack Tuesday afternoon came a month after an Afghan policeman on patrol with U.S. soldiers fired on the Americans, killing two. Training and operating jointly with Afghan police and soldiers is key to NATO's strategy of dealing with the spreading Taliban-led insurgency and, ultimately, allowing international forces to leave Afghanistan.
Attacks such as these will heighten concern about the effectiveness of the Afghan forces.
Lt. Col. David Wakefield, spokesman for the British forces, told Sky News that the soldiers had been mentoring Afghan national police and had been working and living in the police checkpoint in Helmand's Nad-e-Ali district.
read more here
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/11/ap_british_soldiers_killed_110409/
Craigslist Founder Joins VA Innovation Search Panel
Craigslist Founder Joins VA Innovation Search Panel
Craig Newmark to Help Pick Winners of National Competition
WASHINGTON (November 4, 2009) -- Craig Newmark, the founder of
"craigslist" and a well-known technology visionary, has agreed to serve
on the blue-ribbon panel of the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) that
will review and evaluate ideas to improve disability claims processing
times and provide greater transparency to Veterans.
"Transforming VA into an organization that is Veteran-centric,
results-oriented and forward-looking is my top priority," said Secretary
of Veterans Affairs Eric K. Shinseki. "Leveraging the talent, innovation
and creativity of stakeholders, like Craig Newmark, is just one of the
many ways VA can think outside of the box to help deliver tangible
results to our nation's Veterans."
The innovation competition solicited ideas from VA employees and members
of Veterans Service Organizations who are on the front lines every day,
working with Veterans to help deliver benefits they deserve and need.
VA officials from each of the 57 regional offices across the country
have submitted promising ideas, which will be reviewed by Newmark and
other panel members. The panel will be chaired by Patrick W. Dunne, the
VA Under Secretary for Benefits.
"I look forward to working with VA's leadership team to bring tangible
results to our Veterans," said Craig Newmark. "I am very encouraged by
the fact that VA is embracing new ways to look at old problems."
In 1995, Newmark launched the first community site on the Internet for
people to share information about housing, jobs and other needs. By
April 2009, craigslist received more than 22 billion page-views per
month, with more than 50 million members worldwide.
Newmark is a vocal proponent of using the Internet and technology to
support government innovation and maximize the utilization of human
capital. Additionally, Newmark is a passionate supporter of Veterans
causes.
VA has received and reviewed over 3,000 suggestions since Sept. 8th. The
panel will review the top 17 submissions and chose 5 projects that will
receive full funding for project development and execution at the
Regional Office that submitted the idea.
Craig Newmark to Help Pick Winners of National Competition
WASHINGTON (November 4, 2009) -- Craig Newmark, the founder of
"craigslist" and a well-known technology visionary, has agreed to serve
on the blue-ribbon panel of the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) that
will review and evaluate ideas to improve disability claims processing
times and provide greater transparency to Veterans.
"Transforming VA into an organization that is Veteran-centric,
results-oriented and forward-looking is my top priority," said Secretary
of Veterans Affairs Eric K. Shinseki. "Leveraging the talent, innovation
and creativity of stakeholders, like Craig Newmark, is just one of the
many ways VA can think outside of the box to help deliver tangible
results to our nation's Veterans."
The innovation competition solicited ideas from VA employees and members
of Veterans Service Organizations who are on the front lines every day,
working with Veterans to help deliver benefits they deserve and need.
VA officials from each of the 57 regional offices across the country
have submitted promising ideas, which will be reviewed by Newmark and
other panel members. The panel will be chaired by Patrick W. Dunne, the
VA Under Secretary for Benefits.
"I look forward to working with VA's leadership team to bring tangible
results to our Veterans," said Craig Newmark. "I am very encouraged by
the fact that VA is embracing new ways to look at old problems."
In 1995, Newmark launched the first community site on the Internet for
people to share information about housing, jobs and other needs. By
April 2009, craigslist received more than 22 billion page-views per
month, with more than 50 million members worldwide.
Newmark is a vocal proponent of using the Internet and technology to
support government innovation and maximize the utilization of human
capital. Additionally, Newmark is a passionate supporter of Veterans
causes.
VA has received and reviewed over 3,000 suggestions since Sept. 8th. The
panel will review the top 17 submissions and chose 5 projects that will
receive full funding for project development and execution at the
Regional Office that submitted the idea.
Sgt. at Fort Bliss needs our help
I received an email from OperationSafety91 about a request from a Sgt. at Fort Bliss. They need our help. Let's take care of these needs by those who ask so little of us but give us everything they have!!!!
Send what you can to
Send what you can to
Darrin Domko
13031 Bergstrom
Ft Bliss TX 79908
The need:
books
board games
poker chips and cards
movies
game systems and games
phone cards
goodie boxes
any type of prize give aways
There are 150 soldiers, all male. They will be deployed next year. They need decent recreation. Let's all see how we can help!
You can beat PTSD but it is not like the flu you just get over
This is one huge part of the problem and it will continue to produce more and more devastation with our veterans as well as their families. I won't jump on this bandwagon just because this is what is getting attention in the blog world.
PTSD is not like having the flu when you take a few pills, rest and just get over it. That statement indicates how little they really know about PTSD. Maybe they think they can just brainwash the veterans into thinking they can get over it, but that leaves them feeling it's their fault if they don't.
If they cannot figure out their programs have produced a higher suicide rate over the last few years as they come up with programs to cope with the ravage of PTSD, then nothing will convince them to open their eyes, minds and hearts to address all of this properly. Frankly, I'm tired of having to talk veterans off the ledge and then be told by officials that all is well.
You've read about the suicides over the last couple of years on this blog and on my other blog at www.namguardinanangel.blogspot.com. You've seen the videos, especially Death Because They Served where there are over a hundred names of those who did in fact take their own lives. This gets worse every year because no one with the power to do what needs to be done will listen.
Veterans can beat PTSD but like most things, they are changed by their experiences. With knowledge of what PTSD is, where it comes from and hearing what they need to heal, as well as getting families up to speed on this, they can heal. They come out changed but often they come out changed for the better. They already have what they need within them to do this but they need a GPS to find it.
Families need knowledge so they don't make things worse for the veteran. Simple things like pushing them into doing things they don't want to do when they are having a very bad day, it is a huge mistake and adds guilt to the wounded veteran. Waking them up from a nightmare the wrong way can lead to bloody noses and black eyes, the same way addressing them when they are having a flashback can end up with the family member being attacked. When they understand what PTSD is doing to the veteran, they are more apt to want to help than to walk away from them.
Most PTSD veterans don't even understand why certain times of the year are worse for them than others. They don't understand that their subconscious remembers the anniversary of a traumatic event for them. They don't understand this because no one ever told them.
They don't understand that PTSD hit them because they were compassionate people and they took away the pain of others on top of their own pain. They struggle with their spiritual connection to God questioning how the same loving God they prayed to allowed it to happen. They end up feeling their compassion was a curse instead of a blessing to others. Yet when they know what they need to know, their compassion is fed and they once again reach out with that same compassion to help others.
They don't understand that courage is required for the compassionate to act in times of need. Did anyone tell them how much courage it takes to be willing to lay down their lives for the sake of someone else? As for the "sheep dogs" comment, he has part of this right. They are filled with compassion and often they know they may have to take a life to save a life. Much like people entereing into law enforcement. They would rather not have to kill to save but they know sometimes they must. That does not change the fact they are still human and it does not mean they like it or have a "propensity for violence."
It's very difficult to keep reading what the military and the VA is doing when it comes to PTSD when they keep getting it wrong. It's not that they don't care, but they don't know more than they are told.
Psychiatrists and psychologist do not know what clergy know and they don't know what physical therapists know. None of them know what the families know. Healing PTSD requires addressing the body, mind and spirit. Until all these are addressed, the military will keep getting this wrong and we will see more suicides.
This is not just about what is easy. This is not about telling them they can "get over it" the way they were told by others all along. This is about showing them how they can "beat it" while living with it.
This takes everyone involved. From the top of the military chain of command all the way down to the kids. Families have to be included in the veterans healing as well as the military itself. They have yet to address the fact that PTSD comes at different levels. There are depths of cuts depending on how many times the exposure to traumatic events is. Some feel it all deeper than others. Some feel it soon after the event and others feel it many years after. The one common factor no one seems to dispute is the sooner it is addressed the less the wound is.
Much like an infection, PTSD claims more and more territory left untended to. When it is treated and they begin to heal, the scar left behind is the result of the time between wound and healing.
They need to know that even with the parts of PTSD they will have to live with, they can find peace with all of it. Families need to know what it is so they can forgive the way the veteran acted while PTSD was taking more and more parts of them and locking them away behind a wall of pain.
Why is it we never seem to read anything like this when they are talking about PTSD? Because of examples like this when they equate it to the flu!
But it is not just the military suffering. It is the National Guards as well. This is what some in the DOD want to treat like the "flu" and it should really break your heart.
PTSD is not like having the flu when you take a few pills, rest and just get over it. That statement indicates how little they really know about PTSD. Maybe they think they can just brainwash the veterans into thinking they can get over it, but that leaves them feeling it's their fault if they don't.
If they cannot figure out their programs have produced a higher suicide rate over the last few years as they come up with programs to cope with the ravage of PTSD, then nothing will convince them to open their eyes, minds and hearts to address all of this properly. Frankly, I'm tired of having to talk veterans off the ledge and then be told by officials that all is well.
You've read about the suicides over the last couple of years on this blog and on my other blog at www.namguardinanangel.blogspot.com. You've seen the videos, especially Death Because They Served where there are over a hundred names of those who did in fact take their own lives. This gets worse every year because no one with the power to do what needs to be done will listen.
Veterans can beat PTSD but like most things, they are changed by their experiences. With knowledge of what PTSD is, where it comes from and hearing what they need to heal, as well as getting families up to speed on this, they can heal. They come out changed but often they come out changed for the better. They already have what they need within them to do this but they need a GPS to find it.
Families need knowledge so they don't make things worse for the veteran. Simple things like pushing them into doing things they don't want to do when they are having a very bad day, it is a huge mistake and adds guilt to the wounded veteran. Waking them up from a nightmare the wrong way can lead to bloody noses and black eyes, the same way addressing them when they are having a flashback can end up with the family member being attacked. When they understand what PTSD is doing to the veteran, they are more apt to want to help than to walk away from them.
Most PTSD veterans don't even understand why certain times of the year are worse for them than others. They don't understand that their subconscious remembers the anniversary of a traumatic event for them. They don't understand this because no one ever told them.
They don't understand that PTSD hit them because they were compassionate people and they took away the pain of others on top of their own pain. They struggle with their spiritual connection to God questioning how the same loving God they prayed to allowed it to happen. They end up feeling their compassion was a curse instead of a blessing to others. Yet when they know what they need to know, their compassion is fed and they once again reach out with that same compassion to help others.
They don't understand that courage is required for the compassionate to act in times of need. Did anyone tell them how much courage it takes to be willing to lay down their lives for the sake of someone else? As for the "sheep dogs" comment, he has part of this right. They are filled with compassion and often they know they may have to take a life to save a life. Much like people entereing into law enforcement. They would rather not have to kill to save but they know sometimes they must. That does not change the fact they are still human and it does not mean they like it or have a "propensity for violence."
It's very difficult to keep reading what the military and the VA is doing when it comes to PTSD when they keep getting it wrong. It's not that they don't care, but they don't know more than they are told.
Psychiatrists and psychologist do not know what clergy know and they don't know what physical therapists know. None of them know what the families know. Healing PTSD requires addressing the body, mind and spirit. Until all these are addressed, the military will keep getting this wrong and we will see more suicides.
This is not just about what is easy. This is not about telling them they can "get over it" the way they were told by others all along. This is about showing them how they can "beat it" while living with it.
This takes everyone involved. From the top of the military chain of command all the way down to the kids. Families have to be included in the veterans healing as well as the military itself. They have yet to address the fact that PTSD comes at different levels. There are depths of cuts depending on how many times the exposure to traumatic events is. Some feel it all deeper than others. Some feel it soon after the event and others feel it many years after. The one common factor no one seems to dispute is the sooner it is addressed the less the wound is.
Much like an infection, PTSD claims more and more territory left untended to. When it is treated and they begin to heal, the scar left behind is the result of the time between wound and healing.
They need to know that even with the parts of PTSD they will have to live with, they can find peace with all of it. Families need to know what it is so they can forgive the way the veteran acted while PTSD was taking more and more parts of them and locking them away behind a wall of pain.
Why is it we never seem to read anything like this when they are talking about PTSD? Because of examples like this when they equate it to the flu!
On warrior resiliency at Pentagon-sponsored conference
By Kate Wiltrout
The Virginian-Pilot
© November 4, 2009
NORFOLK
Dave Grossman puts humans into three categories: Ninety-eight percent are "sheep," content to graze and likely to stampede when they're threatened. One percent are "wolves," psychopaths with a propensity for violence who lack empathy. The other 1 percent: "sheepdogs," who have both empathy and a propensity for violence.
The sheepdogs are also called warriors, he said. They're not always liked or appreciated by the sheep, but they come to the herd's rescue when wolves threaten.
Grossman seemed to captivate the crowd Tuesday at a Pentagon-sponsored conference on warrior resiliency. Most in attendance wore camouflage military uniforms, but the two-day meeting includes civilian therapists and health care providers, as well as personnel from Veterans Affairs.
The program continues today with a video address from Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and concludes with a panel of "real warriors" talking about combat experiences.
Grossman, a retired Army lieutenant colonel and former professor of psychology at West Point, acknowledges the reality of combat stress and psychological trauma. World War II's "greatest generation" included 500,000 soldiers who were psychiatric casualties, he noted."Post-traumatic stress disorder is not like pregnancy " is one saying he likes to use. It's not like frostbite, either: You can have PTSD, overcome it and suffer no permanent damage. It's more like the flu, he said: "It can kick your tail," but once you've had it, you probably won't catch it again.
read more here
http://hamptonroads.com/2009/11/warrior-resiliency-pentagonsponsored-conference
But it is not just the military suffering. It is the National Guards as well. This is what some in the DOD want to treat like the "flu" and it should really break your heart.
Posted to Great Americans by NamGuardianAngel on September 11, 2009
Tuesday, November 3, 2009
Problems Still Plague Illinois VA Hospital
Report: Problems Still Plague Illinois VA Hospital
by David Schaper
November 3, 2009
A new report from the inspector general in the Department of Veterans Affairs finds that the VA Medical Center in Marion, Ill., continues to be plagued by quality management and patient care problems some two years after a suspicious spike in the number of post-surgical patient deaths there.
A 2008 investigation found that at least nine patients died because of surgical mistakes and poor post-surgical care at the VA hospital in Marion, which is in southern Illinois. That report made recommendations to improve conditions at the facility.
The new report finds poor quality management oversight, inconsistencies in the way patient deaths are reported and continuing problems with ensuring patient safety — including the discovery that surgeons were performing procedures they were not authorized to handle.
Sen. Richard Durbin (D-IL) calls the findings "appalling."
read more here
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120053973
by David Schaper
November 3, 2009
A new report from the inspector general in the Department of Veterans Affairs finds that the VA Medical Center in Marion, Ill., continues to be plagued by quality management and patient care problems some two years after a suspicious spike in the number of post-surgical patient deaths there.
A 2008 investigation found that at least nine patients died because of surgical mistakes and poor post-surgical care at the VA hospital in Marion, which is in southern Illinois. That report made recommendations to improve conditions at the facility.
The new report finds poor quality management oversight, inconsistencies in the way patient deaths are reported and continuing problems with ensuring patient safety — including the discovery that surgeons were performing procedures they were not authorized to handle.
Sen. Richard Durbin (D-IL) calls the findings "appalling."
read more here
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120053973
Golden Gate High students say ‘thank you’ to vet paralyzed in Afghanistan
VIDEO/PHOTOS: Golden Gate High students say ‘thank you’ to vet paralyzed in Afghanistan
By KATHERINE ALBERS
Posted November 2, 2009 at 7:42 p.m. , updated November 2, 2009 at 7:57 p.m.
NAPLES — Romulo “Romy” Camargo never had a nickname until he joined the Special Forces.
“The guys had trouble pronouncing my name, so they started calling me Romy,” he said. “Eventually, I started introducing myself as Romy and ordering business cards with Romy on them.”
Those at Golden Gate High School Monday morning left with another name for Camargo: Hero.
Veterans Day came early to Golden Gate High School this year so that the school could accommodate a special visit by Camargo, a Special Forces chief warrant officer. It was Camargo’s first public speaking engagement since he was shot through the neck and paralyzed from the neck down while on a mission in Afghanistan a little more than one year ago.
read more here
Golden Gate High students say thank you
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http://www.icasualties.org/OEF/index.aspx
By KATHERINE ALBERS
Posted November 2, 2009 at 7:42 p.m. , updated November 2, 2009 at 7:57 p.m.
NAPLES — Romulo “Romy” Camargo never had a nickname until he joined the Special Forces.
“The guys had trouble pronouncing my name, so they started calling me Romy,” he said. “Eventually, I started introducing myself as Romy and ordering business cards with Romy on them.”
Those at Golden Gate High School Monday morning left with another name for Camargo: Hero.
Veterans Day came early to Golden Gate High School this year so that the school could accommodate a special visit by Camargo, a Special Forces chief warrant officer. It was Camargo’s first public speaking engagement since he was shot through the neck and paralyzed from the neck down while on a mission in Afghanistan a little more than one year ago.
read more here
Golden Gate High students say thank you
linked from
http://www.icasualties.org/OEF/index.aspx
Afghanistan vets fear for future care
OttawaCitizen: Afghanistan vets fear for future care
OTTAWA — Canada's Afghan veterans are raising serious concerns about their future and whether they will be taken care of by the government in the decades to come, says the country's Veterans Ombudsman.
Retired Col. Pat Stogran says the problems revolve around the New Veterans Charter and some of the provisions in that legislation. One concern is that Afghan veterans who are wounded now receive a lump-sum payment. In the past, former soldiers got a monthly disability pension, he noted.
"I have some significant misgivings about that," said Stogran, a veteran of Afghanistan and missions in the former Yugoslavia. "Personally, my instincts tell me the last thing you want to do when a young soldier comes back from overseas, perhaps with an operational stress injury, or with a dependency on alcohol or drugs, is give him $250,000 to self-medicate."
The money is meant to recognize and compensate Canadian Forces members, veterans and their families for a service-related disability. The award is a tax-free lump-sum payment with the amount depending on the extent of the injury. The maximum amount is slightly more than $267,000.
read more here
Afghanistan vets fear for future care
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http://www.icasualties.org/OEF/index.aspx
OTTAWA — Canada's Afghan veterans are raising serious concerns about their future and whether they will be taken care of by the government in the decades to come, says the country's Veterans Ombudsman.
Retired Col. Pat Stogran says the problems revolve around the New Veterans Charter and some of the provisions in that legislation. One concern is that Afghan veterans who are wounded now receive a lump-sum payment. In the past, former soldiers got a monthly disability pension, he noted.
"I have some significant misgivings about that," said Stogran, a veteran of Afghanistan and missions in the former Yugoslavia. "Personally, my instincts tell me the last thing you want to do when a young soldier comes back from overseas, perhaps with an operational stress injury, or with a dependency on alcohol or drugs, is give him $250,000 to self-medicate."
The money is meant to recognize and compensate Canadian Forces members, veterans and their families for a service-related disability. The award is a tax-free lump-sum payment with the amount depending on the extent of the injury. The maximum amount is slightly more than $267,000.
read more here
Afghanistan vets fear for future care
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http://www.icasualties.org/OEF/index.aspx
Afghanistan choice won't make everyone happy
No matter what President Obama does about Afghanistan, he will not be able to make everyone happy since no one agrees now.
If President Obama increases the number of troops he has no way of really knowing if it will be enough or not. He's being advised by other humans, with differing opinions and just as much experience as well as concern for the lives on the line.
The military families can't agree on what the right move will be either.
It would be wonderful if the Afghan people would finally take full responsibility for their own country since they have proven time after time throughout their history they are perfectly capable of fighting their own battles. The problem is, since most are very poor, they have to decide to fight the Taliban or support them, grow poppies or food. No one really knows what will happen in Afghanistan no matter what he decides to do.
Can we do anything about it and know for sure if we are right or wrong? Not really. Ask a group of Vietnam veterans if it was right to pull out of Vietnam and you will find different answers. Just like what is happening now, no one really knows what the answer is.
The only thing we really can be sure of is for however long this goes on, there will be more casualties. Some will come home to an honor guard at Dover. Others will come home looking as if they were not paying the price of combat, but paying none the less with it embedded deeply inside of them. Some will have to live the rest of their lives missing limbs. The list of wounds is endless and so is our obligation to them.
This we know for sure. The wounded will need to be taken care of for the rest of their lives and the fact they were willing to sacrifice their lives for the sake of what the nation asked of them should never, ever be diminished by time or budgets.
Let the experts debate what President Obama should do or not do because the next day after he decides, they will come out against him no matter how many experts he has giving him advice. Let the hot heads on TV say how wrong he is but it will not change the lives of a veteran already paying the price for their service when they are waiting for a claim to be approved, praying they don't end up homeless, or save a family falling apart.
We can!
Navy wife wants US military out of Afghanistan now
By David Edwards
Tuesday, November 3rd, 2009 -- 9:47 am
The wife of a Navy fighter pilot is calling for President Barack Obama to pull troops out of Afghanistan now. "I think we should pull out of Afghanistan entirely. I think that after eight years of war it has become quite clear that especially to those of us who are the very few americans who are really suffering in this war that the price is not worth it," Lisa Leitz told CNN's Kiran Chetry Tuesday.
"A number of Americans have lost their lives, many military families have been completely crushed by the burden of these wars and we have very little to show for it," Leitz continued. "We have a corrupt Afghanistan government and we have a number of people who are still trying to attack us, particularly not because they belong to the Taliban or terrorist organizations, but rather because we are occupying them.".
Leitz is a board member of Military Families Speak Out. The group is urging President Obama to bring all the troops home from Iraq and Afghanistan.
Not all family members are calling for the war to be ended now. Karen Irwin's son is serving in Afghanistan and she wants the president to send more troops to the war zone. "I would tell the president that our soldiers, our brave young men and women, including my son, have invested a lot of their time in support of that country and our country, putting their lives on the line," she told CNN's Chetry. "Some of them have given the ultimate sacrifice and I think they deserve support of our government and support of our people to give them everything they need to complete this mission and to win, leaving a free afghanistan, leaving the people the opportunities, the personal opportunities that we have here in our country."
read more here
http://rawstory.com/2009/11/navy-wife-afghanistan-withdrawal/
If President Obama increases the number of troops he has no way of really knowing if it will be enough or not. He's being advised by other humans, with differing opinions and just as much experience as well as concern for the lives on the line.
The military families can't agree on what the right move will be either.
It would be wonderful if the Afghan people would finally take full responsibility for their own country since they have proven time after time throughout their history they are perfectly capable of fighting their own battles. The problem is, since most are very poor, they have to decide to fight the Taliban or support them, grow poppies or food. No one really knows what will happen in Afghanistan no matter what he decides to do.
Can we do anything about it and know for sure if we are right or wrong? Not really. Ask a group of Vietnam veterans if it was right to pull out of Vietnam and you will find different answers. Just like what is happening now, no one really knows what the answer is.
The only thing we really can be sure of is for however long this goes on, there will be more casualties. Some will come home to an honor guard at Dover. Others will come home looking as if they were not paying the price of combat, but paying none the less with it embedded deeply inside of them. Some will have to live the rest of their lives missing limbs. The list of wounds is endless and so is our obligation to them.
This we know for sure. The wounded will need to be taken care of for the rest of their lives and the fact they were willing to sacrifice their lives for the sake of what the nation asked of them should never, ever be diminished by time or budgets.
Let the experts debate what President Obama should do or not do because the next day after he decides, they will come out against him no matter how many experts he has giving him advice. Let the hot heads on TV say how wrong he is but it will not change the lives of a veteran already paying the price for their service when they are waiting for a claim to be approved, praying they don't end up homeless, or save a family falling apart.
We can!
Man, woman, 2 youths dead in apparent shooting in North Carolina
Man, woman, 2 youths dead in apparent shooting in North Carolina
November 3, 2009 10:34 a.m. EST
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
Chief says police were told there were bodies inside residence Monday night
Police saw body of woman before entering, found bodies of older man and 2 juveniles inside
Police didn't name the four; tax assessor's office, paper say couple, 2 kids live at the home
(CNN) -- Police on Tuesday were investigating the apparent gunshot deaths of four people in a home in the upscale Haymount neighborhood of Fayetteville, North Carolina, authorities said.
Police were called to the residence at 8:08 p.m. Monday by someone who reported there were bodies inside, Police Chief Tom Bergamine said in a news release.
Bergamine said police were able to see the body of a woman in the house before entering. Once inside, officers also found the bodies of an older man and two juveniles -- a male and a female. Police did not name the four.
read more here
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/03/north.carolina.deaths/index.html
November 3, 2009 10:34 a.m. EST
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
Chief says police were told there were bodies inside residence Monday night
Police saw body of woman before entering, found bodies of older man and 2 juveniles inside
Police didn't name the four; tax assessor's office, paper say couple, 2 kids live at the home
(CNN) -- Police on Tuesday were investigating the apparent gunshot deaths of four people in a home in the upscale Haymount neighborhood of Fayetteville, North Carolina, authorities said.
Police were called to the residence at 8:08 p.m. Monday by someone who reported there were bodies inside, Police Chief Tom Bergamine said in a news release.
Bergamine said police were able to see the body of a woman in the house before entering. Once inside, officers also found the bodies of an older man and two juveniles -- a male and a female. Police did not name the four.
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